Comments on: The Dark Knight and Fandom http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/archives/250 Stumbling Toward Cinema Since 2006... Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:58:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: sydney http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/archives/250/comment-page-1#comment-128954 sydney Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:32:44 +0000 http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/?p=250#comment-128954 watchmen definitely is one of the most acclaimed graphic novels of all time. it changed everything for the superhero comic medium, but also pioneered some amazing visual styles/cues. maus is pretty fucking boring, but i've never been a huge fan of spiegelman. pam, you're a jerk. (<3) watchmen definitely is one of the most acclaimed graphic novels of all time. it changed everything for the superhero comic medium, but also pioneered some amazing visual styles/cues.

maus is pretty fucking boring, but i’ve never been a huge fan of spiegelman.

pam, you’re a jerk. (<3)

]]> By: Pam http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/archives/250/comment-page-1#comment-128440 Pam Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:27:42 +0000 http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/?p=250#comment-128440 Since when is David Boring one of the most acclaimed graphic novels of our time? That dead-eyed, flat, drab excuse for a graphic novella? If we're looking for comics that trump Watchmen for (deserved) acclaim, I'd go with the Maus-Persepolis-Fun Home trifecta. Since when is David Boring one of the most acclaimed graphic novels of our time? That dead-eyed, flat, drab excuse for a graphic novella? If we’re looking for comics that trump Watchmen for (deserved) acclaim, I’d go with the Maus-Persepolis-Fun Home trifecta.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/archives/250/comment-page-1#comment-128417 Andrew Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:31:23 +0000 http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/?p=250#comment-128417 Oh and adding one more stupid observation to the fire... It's funny because I've had some backlash towards some people criticizing the film, too, but for the complete opposite reason the fan boys you discuss in your piece. Like you say, I don't think this is Bergman, so I don't think it should be evaluated as Bergman. At least not in the popular press, whatever people want to write on their blogs, go for it! It's a fun summer blockbuster and I think, undeniably the best superhero movie we've seen thus far. I'd be pretty upset if a local paper reviewer wouldn't say as much (or at least recommend it as what it is). The most critical reactions (which I wouldn't count yours among) have just seemed uber contrarian and silly. It's a dark Batman mini-epic tragedy, but it's still Batman. This rant should draw most of the fan boy flames to me and away from you. Oh and adding one more stupid observation to the fire…

It’s funny because I’ve had some backlash towards some people criticizing the film, too, but for the complete opposite reason the fan boys you discuss in your piece. Like you say, I don’t think this is Bergman, so I don’t think it should be evaluated as Bergman. At least not in the popular press, whatever people want to write on their blogs, go for it! It’s a fun summer blockbuster and I think, undeniably the best superhero movie we’ve seen thus far. I’d be pretty upset if a local paper reviewer wouldn’t say as much (or at least recommend it as what it is).

The most critical reactions (which I wouldn’t count yours among) have just seemed uber contrarian and silly. It’s a dark Batman mini-epic tragedy, but it’s still Batman.

This rant should draw most of the fan boy flames to me and away from you.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/archives/250/comment-page-1#comment-128416 Andrew Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:21:29 +0000 http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/?p=250#comment-128416 whoops, meant The Dark Knight, not Dark Knight Returns. whoops, meant The Dark Knight, not Dark Knight Returns.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/archives/250/comment-page-1#comment-128415 Andrew Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:18:49 +0000 http://www.myfiveyearplan.net/?p=250#comment-128415 While it may be what it's most renowned for, Watchmen is about much more than deconstructioning superheroes. I don't think it's fair to say it's credited for just that. As for the actual quote "most-acclaimed" doesn't really mean anything, does it? They could have gotten away with "most influential" or "one of the most important," and said more doing so. This all being said, Pultizers and other laurels or not, I don't think anyone can say the 3 works you named have had nearly the kind of impact or influence that Watchmen has and continues to have on the medium. Its influence is everywhere, including in DKR. While it may be what it’s most renowned for, Watchmen is about much more than deconstructioning superheroes. I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s credited for just that.

As for the actual quote “most-acclaimed” doesn’t really mean anything, does it? They could have gotten away with “most influential” or “one of the most important,” and said more doing so.

This all being said, Pultizers and other laurels or not, I don’t think anyone can say the 3 works you named have had nearly the kind of impact or influence that Watchmen has and continues to have on the medium. Its influence is everywhere, including in DKR.

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